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Post by Tobey on Sept 15, 2007 0:23:47 GMT -5
We should probably wait just a little bit longer than that, just in case any of the people who aren't here would be (for whatever reason) opposed to the legislation idea. Or they want /their/ characters to start the thread.
But I don't really care, either. Um, rock paper scissors?
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Post by Kitty on Sept 15, 2007 0:30:22 GMT -5
Well, if we wait, then we have a few days to make a choice. Riiiight?
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Post by Tobey on Sept 15, 2007 0:32:21 GMT -5
Ah, good point. Okay, then, 'decide later' it is!
I gotta go to bed. Good night.
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Post by Tobey on Sept 17, 2007 14:54:57 GMT -5
I think we've just about waited long enough. Almost all of the people who are still active right now have been online at some point since we posted the idea; Lunar and Aenigmatic haven't, but Lunar hasn't even been on DeviantArt anytime lately, as far as I can tell, so I don't know what's going on with her, and we don't know when either of them will be back. So, as much as I hate to proceed without the vote of confidence from our fearless leader, I think we should go for it anyway.
Since I've already started typing up the post, I'll do it unless someone else really wants to.
Oh, and I was planning to use the "it happened a long time ago but it's just been recently brought up again by the media" idea, unless anyone has an objection. Objections, anyone?
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Post by Kitty on Sept 18, 2007 6:40:41 GMT -5
Have the legal bill thing just come up about an event which happened in the past. I think the legislation needs to be current.
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Post by Tobey on Sept 18, 2007 9:01:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you're right. I'm not sure why I wanted to do it the other way. Maybe because I was trying to minimize the 'coincidence factor,' which for some unfathomable reason is /still/ bugging me. Which, really, only goes to show how incredibly OCD I am.
But, yeah, the legislation would have much more of an impact if it were current. I will change my post accordingly, and it should be up today, or if not, tomorrow.
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Post by Tobey on Sept 19, 2007 22:13:56 GMT -5
You know what? I think I may have changed my mind about something. I just remembered that I had been planning to have "Legally Inhuman" happen before "Survival of the Fittest", but then I realized that that would mean it happened in /May/. Which, I think, is just too effing long ago. Especially since, if past experience is any indication, this plot will probably take at the very least a few months to come to completion /anyway/.
Making it entirely possible that, by the time the plot is over, we'll be roleplaying stuff that would have happened /years/ ago IC.
So, for the sake of not tying the time continuum in completely unmanageable knots, I think I should make "Legally Inhuman" have happened when it says it happened. And if we still really want Isaac to be involved in the media plot, I can make him come back to the House. If it comes to it, I will find a way to pursuade him, d**n it.
The only problem I can see with this is that I can't really picture Guadalupe just forgetting about the media idea and not ever bringing it up again during that lengthy span of time between "Anarchy and Democracy," and, well, now.
So Kitty, what do you think? Can you think of a reason Guadalupe would have put her grand plan on the back burner for a few months, or should we go ahead, and risk screwing with the time-stream like never before?
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Post by Aenigmatic on Sept 20, 2007 0:08:25 GMT -5
I have been around, just not logged in. I didn't really feel like my input was desired, since I wasn't around for the first media thing... Meh.
Seeing as the thread has already been made, I don't see that there's much for me to say about it anyway, except that I'd really love Kaspar and Matt to get involved somehow. I've got three dead threads for Kaspar (one without any replies) and one dead thread for Matt, so... Yeah. I'd like one/both of them to be involved in something successful.
Anyway. Any ideas for what I can do with either of them? I can come up with some obvious ones, but I'd like at least one of them to get really entangled in the plot somehow.
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Post by Tobey on Sept 20, 2007 21:45:17 GMT -5
Dyude, your not being here for the first media plot is all the /more/ reason why we would want your input on the second! An unshared idea is about as much good as an un-cracked nut . . . or something like that.
Anyway, as for getting your characters 'really entangled in the plot', we will need one or more humanoid residents later on in the plot (to talk to the reporter or whatever), of which Matt could theoretically be one. Don't have any ideas for Kaspar, though.
. . . Wait! I lied. Yes I do. A while ago, I was kind of pondering the idea of the House's residents kind of splitting into two 'camps'; the legal humans and the legal non-humans (or the illegal humans, lol). We could maybe have some veery interesting conflicts from that angle. But the idea of Kaspar (a legal non-human) belonging to either Tonya or Zepher (both legally human, I think) as a pet, would probably set off some tensions between the two groups. Some of the non-humans might interpret it as an insult. And some of the more paranoid ones might even get the idea that the 'humans' wanted to keep /all/ the non-humans as pets.
And the scary thing is, since the 'non-humans' would be defined as 'animals' according to this crazy law, it would, in fact, be completely legal for the 'humans' to keep them as pets. I can't picture that ever happening at the House, but it would certainly be an interesting source of tension to have one group that is legally 'above' the other. Or, at least, it would be interesting to see how different people react to the concept.
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Post by Aenigmatic on Sept 21, 2007 1:24:25 GMT -5
But I like uncracked nuts! *chews on acorn* They're not so bad, you know. You think I'm kidding, but I'm not. o.O;;
I like the idea of Kaspar unwittingly being the catalyst of that kind of conflict, especially because he hates conflict in general. Matt can definitely do the reporter-talking thing though. *nod*
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Post by Tobey on Sept 21, 2007 12:59:00 GMT -5
O.o . . . . In that case, I meant to say 'uncracked /walnut/' You try eating one of /those/ with the shell on and liking it! But once you crack 'em, they're oh-so-good. Just like I'm sure your ideas about the media plot would be, if you were willing to tell us about them.
I just realized something that somehow hadn't occurred to me before. Which is; if Tonya becomes Kaspar's keeper, would he be able to adjust his sleep schedule to match hers? Because, if not, they'll only see each other when their awake-times happen to overlap. Which, considering how much most cats /sleep/, might not be very often. Hehe, I can't believe I completely forgot that Tonya was nocturnal. And, if she tries to go diurnal for Kaspar's sake, she'll quite likely go insane. Er, more insane.
And, since Tonya is my only legally human character (except possibly Echo, whose 'legal humanity' is up for debate, and who would probably be a bit leery of Kaspar, anyway), none of my other charries would work with the human-non-human conflict idea.
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Post by Aenigmatic on Sept 21, 2007 14:06:03 GMT -5
Kaspar isn't really diurnal or nocturnal. He runs around when he's energetic, he sleeps when he's tired, and he'll wake people up to play with him if he's really desperate for company or he gets scared in the middle of the night (Kaspar is such a little baby about the dark). He doesn't need as much sleep as a normal tiger anyway, so no 18-hour naps for him. He'd be up and about most any time of the day/night.
The only thing I'd be worried about is feeding him. Tigers in general eat a lot, and Kaspar will snack on pretty much whatever he can get his teeth around.
As for Matt... He'll probably be torn about how much he wants to get involved too, since he's one of the few with an actual family and whatnot to worry about. He'll definitely get involved, but there's a chance he might end up having to back off on his father's orders... Or something like that.
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Post by Tobey on Sept 21, 2007 14:48:01 GMT -5
Tonya prolly won't be much help if Kaspar gets scared in the middle of the night; she'd be too busy trying to stay away from whatever it is he's scared of. xD, I'm evil.
Hmm. The day/night flexibility is good, but the food thing is definitely a strike against Tonya, as she does not have a paycheck. Echo does, though . . . maybe I could try to talk her into being more open to the idea of being Kaspar's keeper?
Echo: I'll /think/ about it.
I have a feeling she's not going to change her mind.
Maybe I should make Tonya get a job?
Tonya (rocking back and forth): No, no, no, no, no, too many people, too many people . . . Tobey: Maybe you could borrow money from someone else, then? Tonya: No, because then my hyperactive guilty conscience would never leave me alone.
Dangit, why do all my characters have to be so darn /difficult/?
I like the idea of Matt being torn between the media plot and his family. Yay more conflict! And if he gets cold feet, that would give us a reason to send a different 'informant' to the reporter for a while, in case someone else wants their humanish characters to be involved.
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Post by Souleh on Sept 21, 2007 15:15:22 GMT -5
I really, really like the camps being divided that way. Love it. Adore it. Human/non-human conflicts are what I /live/ for, people. Srsly. With deviations (or just one, but I'm pluralizing 'cause I'm cool) like Kaspar or Good Friends, even better. Kaspar as catalyst is /awesome/. I love you people. HAVE MY BABIES.
And I assure you, Adri will be one of the paranoid people thinking that Kaspar-as-pet is setting a precedent he does not like. But you already knew that, hurr hurr.
And if no one else takes Kaspar, Re is lonely and underused, he might want to come out to play. But I'll let other people go after the big pet kitty first, since I'm unsure whether I can stay loyally committed to Re. One-track mind, Souleh has.
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Post by Tobey on Sept 21, 2007 16:02:40 GMT -5
Well, if you're /offering/ . . . . . . heck yes I want to have your babies! Oh, crap. We're twins. So we prolly shouldn't have children. For the sake of them not being horrendously deformed. D**n my conscience!
Yeah, I was more or less thinking of Adrian when I said that. Yey for paranoia!
If Re has a job, he should probably take precedence over Tonya in terms of who gets to dote on Kaspar. He might be the better choice /anyway/, on account of the fact that he's not a neurotic psycho-phrenic person with zero social skills.
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Post by Souleh on Sept 21, 2007 16:12:44 GMT -5
xD You could carry my children by another man? THEN IT WOULDN'T MAKE TWINCESTUOUS BABIES.
xD I figured. 'Round these parts, 'paranoia' and 'Adrian' are practically synonyms. :D And hey, part of it isn't even paranoia, it's past experiences with being not quite human and a pet. ...Okay, slave is a bit more...right. THANKS MOMMA AND POPPA CALDIK.
I think Re has a job. Nothing particularly fabulous, but Re leads a simple life. He is not like Adrian, who is as much of an extravagant bastard as his situation allows (except for shoes, he likes old shoes), Re mostly saves his money for when he needs something and things. Perhaps they could buddy up, Tonya and Re, and be Kaspar's mommy and daddy. xD If she wants a pet. And then, hey, she gets to make friends with the friendly household clone!
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Post by Kitty on Sept 21, 2007 16:45:49 GMT -5
Re should work with Guadalupe at the nameless coffee shop.
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Post by Souleh on Sept 21, 2007 16:52:24 GMT -5
'Kay. Re certainly does not mind that, as long as the coffee shop doesn't mind hiring someone who DOES NOT LEGALLY EXIST, hurr hurr. (Poor nameless coffee shop.)
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Post by Kitty on Sept 21, 2007 17:13:16 GMT -5
I don't think they check.
I should probably name the place, too.
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Post by Souleh on Sept 21, 2007 17:14:07 GMT -5
Wewt.
They should have an utterly random name.
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